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Offseason Update: Sept. 25, 2015

Now I can follow last year’s digital size 13’s, so here goes…

THE STATE OF THE FARM
All seven affiliates had losing records and missed the playoffs. Obviously, that’s not the only measuring stick or even the most important one. But I’ve long felt that the reflexive, “stats are meaningless in the minors” trope by baseball folks to be disingenuous. I’m sure many of you had this reaction at least three times a week when looking at the daily rundown. Like a taxi on a rainy night, offense (age-appropriate or not) was hard to find. A lot of you are pinning your hopes on the influx of talent from the D.R. and I have little reason to disagree.

BA TOP 20 LISTS
Victor Robles was named the #2 prospect in both the GCL and the NYPL (remember Baseball America loves to double-dip) and was joined by Erick Fedde (#4). That, of course, means there’s a small chance that Fedde will make the cut for the Sally Lg., too. Aside from Lucas Giolito, I have little confidence we’ll see many more.

THE 2015 WATCHLIST
The logical inference from the previous two items is that the watchlist has become a depth chart. This has always been my worst fear, and it makes me less interested in creating a 2016 edition. This is not necessarily a result of a disappointing season; a year ago I wrote that I knew the list will become smaller and less comprehensive, but I was hoping not to scrap it altogether. Perhaps I’ll feel differently in a few weeks, or someone can make a case in the comments for a way to preserve this.

THE DSL NATIONALS
After years of being one of — if not the — oldest teams in the DSL, the 2015 edition had the youngest set of position players in the league (average age: 17.6 vs. 18.3) and the fourth-youngest pitching staff (18.3 vs. 19.0). But being young is only a part of the equation; were they any good? In the 38-team DSL, the bats were 29th (4.46 R/G vs. 5.02) and the arms were 33rd (5.74). The defense was also below average with a .947FA (.952).

So, no, not really.

The million-peso question is how many of these guys will repeat, with the follow-up of how many will be let go. We won’t know until next May. But the hope is that those that do repeat — and are still age-appropriate — will improve dramatically.

Without further ado…

TOP 5 BATS TOP 5 ARMS
1. Aldrem Corredor, 1B/OF, .289 GPA, 39 BB 1. Pedro Avila, RHSP, 2.26/1.87/1.06, 13.1 K/9
2. Luis Perdomo, LF, .275 GPA, 16 2B 2. Francys Peguero, RHRP, 1.82/1.99/0.84, 13.5 K/9
3. Edwin Ventura, RF, .265 GPA, 15SB 3. Yonathan Ramirez, LHSP, 2.75/2.91/1.12, 1.7 BB/9
4. Roberto Medina, C, .278 GPA, .442SLG% (34G) 3. Gilbert Chu, RHRP, 2.55/2.90/1.09, 11.0 K/9
5. Juan Evangelista, CF, .258 GPA, 108 TB 5. Warner Duran, RHRP, 2.67/2.35/1.22, 0HR in 33⅔ IP

 

Honorable mentions go to 17-y.o. Omar Meregildo, who led the team in slugging at .443 (but also faded badly, .450 OPS in August vs. .643 in July and .885 in June) and 18-y.o. RHRP Angel Guillen, who had a very respectable 3.02 FIP and an extremely unlucky .423 BABIP, which can be obscured by his ERA (6.08) and H/9IP (10.8). Folks interested in seeing the entire team’s stats can find them here.

59 Commments

  2. Thank you, Luke. The Nats would do well to invest in scouting and development talent to better cover the country and the world. Any organization that would pay what it did for Scherzer and would find the bargains it has in a few of the Latin talents amidst its search for quantity must also recognize that the underwhelming performances in the DSL mean that quantity does not always yield any gold at all (with due respect to Avila). Good scouts are a lot more affordable than bad contracts of injured and underperforming fringe players.

    It is also worth watching to see what coaching staffs get reshuffled in the minors. Syracuse is strong – they finished so well and overcame lots of adversity. There is no getting around the disappointing elsewhere, especially in the offense and defense departments.

    1. The hiring away of Gary Cathcart by Miami is not a good sign. I certainly hope it’s merely a matter of money, but I was always intrigued that he took what most people would consider a demotion (manager of High-A to manager of SS-A) without considering his responsibilities as the overall coordinator of Instruction. I fear that we’ll get subpar replacements for both roles.

      2. Luke, let’s base replacement on what we have seen prior .
        Milacki replaced Jack McKeons son in law @ Cuse.
        Barrett replaced ????
        Thumbs up on those two- right ?
        Could we see an in house hire such as one
        Of the number of ex catchers in farms who were
        Assigned to coaching spots in farm? McCauley ,
        Ivany?
        Time will tell

      3. I’ve seen rumblings from the system relative to Rizzo’s arrogance. And recent unwillingness to listen to others’ opinions. Or perhaps there’s still fallout from the falling out between Rizzo and Davey, who according to some, had very intimate knowledge of the Nat’s system and players and seemed fully capable of sharing that knowledge with Rizzo and the FO in a way that I guess undercut Riggleman who seemed intent on playing veterans to enhance his own record in a system that was definitely rebuilding at the time. Then came the falling out as Rizzo tried to micromanage Davey’s clubhouse. I tend to suspect that such things can have an effect system wide. Because, after all shit does flow downhill.

  3. I’ll be one to give a vote of confidence to Rizzo. He trades very well and with great vision. Unfortunately, injuries do happen and make trades and non-trades worse. The Papelbon trade was a seemingly low risk for a replaceable part. Perhaps it would have yielded benefits if the Nats got to October. However, their wheels came off before it got to that point. And the Storen flameout can be read both ways — it might just as well have happened in October, again, were a move not to have been made.

    1. What Rizzo needs is “adult” supervision–an experienced baseball executive as President of Baseball Operations who will evaluate his moves and maybe second guess decisions like trading Clippard instead of Storen last offseason and then trying to replace Clippard with an aging free agent reliever who was already having injury problems. Such an executive also might have questioned the wisdom of paying over $200 million for a free agent starter and then trying to get by with a bullpen built on the cheap. Not to mention guaranteeing $11 million in salary next year for yet another rapidly aging reliever who is also a notorious jerk.

      Rizzo’s success in building up the Nats so quickly seems to have gone to his head. He needs to have his ego deflated a bit for the good of the organization.

      1. Rizzo’s success in building up the Nats so quickly seems to have gone to his head. He needs to have his ego deflated a bit for the good of the organization.

        +eleventy million

        I always think about how cocky he was after the 2011 draft (Rendon-Purke-Goodwin) — what worries me is that, deep down, he still thinks he drafted well and that Purke and Goodwin are to blame for not panning out.

        1. I hate to have to disagree with Luke, and I did not want to weigh in with an inordinately long response, but I do want to weigh in with an altogether supportive impression of Rizzo.

          My position, overall, is that his trading acumen has been a real plus and a quantum improvement for the organization. The farm system and the Dominican systems are improved overall, even though the system has obvious holes right now and organizational depth gaps have been exposed as a result. A few salient points.

          1) Scherzer vs. Zimmerman – I do feel this was a wise move. Scherzer underperformed this year and faltered when it mattered – which no one could have envisioned – when they needed him to be pitching at the level he showed he could, earlier this year. We have no reason, health or otherwise, to doubt Scherzer as a cornerstone of the starting rotation next year. Zimmerman may be a great free agent pickup, but he still had one TJ and as such I cannot imagine the wisdom of a six year deal at high dollar. Rizzo rolled the dice and paid higher dollar for someone that they think they will get better results out of for more years. That was a long term decision and a ballsy one.
          2) Injuries and underperformance in the rotation – No one saw Fister’s decline. Two years ago, the Fister deal was the toast of the baseball world. Last year, Fister was pitching like a #2. As for Strasburg, we’ve seen this from him before, and the depth was supposed to compensate. I do agree that the risk taken with Roark was not a wise one – the team should have learned from the earlier experiences with Lannan and Detwiler about collecting starters. I get that Scherzer’s acquisition was based on an appraisal that no one in the 2015-2016 class would be better, either. I would have traded Zimmerman before the year and advocated then for same. I don’t think Roark is finished, I think he simply needs to reaquire a rhythym and try again. Of course, his trade value is now diminished, so we will have that chance to see it through next year because he will not be sold low.
          3) Underperformance and injuries in the starting lineup. Perhaps the long periods on the shelf for Werth, Span and for Zimmerman were foreseeable. I blamed Werth and Boras for burying Werth’s shoulder injury until after they traded Souza. I cannot imagine the Souza trade would have happened had the team known Span and Werth would be unavailable to them for so long. Not that Souza would necessarily have been the answer to so much of the team’s punchless and moribund attack outside of Harper. But the injuries were there, and Taylor was rushed to the majors, and Rizzo got burned on trading to shore up his middle infield options for life after Desmond. What is less frequently considered is that no one anticipated the level of underperformance from Ramos and Rendon – arguable the team’s best player in 2014. That cannot be blamed on Rizzo.
          4) In that regard, the trade for Turner, even as a player coming out of High A, was a forward thinking move anticipating that Desmond was gone either because he was unaffordable, or that the organization anticipated his coming decline in 2016 or soon afterward and thus would not plan to re-sign him anyway. Desmond’s decline in a contract year was statistically not to be predicted, but with Turner in and better than advertised, and better quicker, that forward thinking is to be respected.
          5) No one is considering whether the return for Storen was lower than would be garnered for Clippard even in a walk year. Rizzo did pretty damn good buying Escobar low. He helped hold the lineup together and save the team from a disastrous start. I had no problem with the trade of Clippard and still do not. Even putting aside Janssen, the team had reason to be optimistic about Treinen, had young arms coming up like Grace (who had impressed) and a maturing Barrett, and a healthy Stammen and Thornton as well. When the bullpen was struggling, Rizzo went out and got Carpenter for Renda, and the move looked good at first and then he went down.
          6) The Papelbon trade was a risk only insofar as Storen psychologically tanked. And I am sorry, but I put it all on Storen. You are making 5 million, you are going to be a free agent next year, you already went through demotion last time your performance faltered and showed you could come back, grow up, be a professional, and see that your team is in a damn pennant race. Jeeves makes a good point that trading for someone based on the condition that they close is a bad dynamic, but they acquired Papelbon to close, so there’s no coercion there. The Rizzo choice, in my view, was whether to trade Turner in a package back to San Diego to get Kimbrel (whom I think may still end up in DC by next year) or get Papelbon on the cheap. Papelbon is no Soriano. The guy can still pitch and I have not heard one rumbling about how he poisoned this clubhouse. The trade was for October with the expectation that he would not be walking eight guys like Rivero and Storen did that nigh(mare) against the Mets, or throwing wild pitches the way Barrett wet the bed. He was not lights out, but Papelbon as a problem, to me, is more illusory.
          7) Rizzo also deserves credit for Clint Robinson, Jose Lobaton, and for trades he did not make – like Danny Espinosa. Certainly keeping Espinosa around anticipating his 2015 performance was not based on any statistical analysis.
          8) I don’t experience Rizzo as preening for Matt Purke. We made Matt Purke a celebrity (because he was a top pundit-rated talent and because he looks like many of us when we were stoned), not Rizzo. What Rizzo did do was draft Giolito after many people passed on him. And he does deserve credit for that. He drafted Rendon despite his injury history. And Meyer brought us Span, who when healthy proved to be a catalytic player who makes a winning team a championship caliber team. Span’s absence had incalculable consequence to the team these past few seasons and has to be replaced. I have watched Turner’s ascent with great enthusiasm because of his catalytic qualities as a winner as much as anything. His replacement of Span may be more important than his replacement of Desmond.
          9) Let me say that I was not happy the Nats did not trade Desmond before the year. Let me say that I was not happy that they did not trade JZimmerman. But that does not make my thought process correct and Rizzo’s incorrect. We have no idea what they turned down as offers.
          10) I think Rizzo is built up in the media, but on a personal level, I don’t experience him as arrogant. The organization’s reputation on a human level, around baseball, would not be strong if he were. Rizzo cannot be blamed for the press adoring him as if it is his hubris. It’s not like he writes books about himself like Billy Beane. Or makes splashy trades like Preller. He seems to be low key about all of his trades. He touted the Nationals brand when they signed Werth and when they had the three draft picks, but that was then, and years ago, and the Nats arrived in 2012 and the message and its delivery changed.
          11) I have been critical of the organization on certain levels. And I do think that many changes are in order. And I think that there are those stinker moves like McLouth and Janssen. But all teams make those moves from time to time, including the vaunted Dodgers, the vaunted Dombrowski, the vaunted John Hart, and anyone who has traded for Cespedes. So all in all, I’m happy Rizzo has the chance to go into this off season forced to make a big picture blueprint for an organization that factors in many assets and many unreliable assets and many chips that have lower value than one would want.

          1. Let me add that any arrogancxe one might perceive about the draft went out the window with Roy Clark’s depature, the Johannsen bust, and the nadir – a 2014 draft in which Suarez and Byler did not sign.

          2. You took every opinion out of mouth .
            Well written .
            Matthew Purke is a ghostly reminder of BJ Wallace
            In expo years .
            Injuries, off set chemistry . Good point on Werth snd
            Boras burying the injury after the beltway speeding
            Incident.
            Many of us get into the off season hot stove league
            Action more than seeing a team turtle to second place .
            Brass should get kudos for adding pieces to AAÀ/AA
            Amidst the injuries but this winter farm depth should
            Be added to the promotion groups @ each level esoecislkyvthe
            Cuse and Burg.
            We will never know the return on 20 and 27 this summer
            But the way John Hart was active in three team deals
            – hmmmm.
            The good thing about the Mets is that a division winner
            reaches that pinnacle then faces the karmic mix of injuries ,
            Sophomore jinx and lowered petfomances especialky from
            Guys who two years ago were flat .
            Ryan 11 health topic 2 in Nats thinking behind upscale
            And retool. Trim some guys off 40 man, examine the kids
            Injured who need winter work to catch up with healthy
            Farm kids. Aka. Benincasa and others .
            Desmond seems like a resign since the infield supporting
            Cast is ….in review and consideration upstairs .
            The scouting is good enough to convert the supplementary
            Pick from JoZimm27 into a decent kid considering the draft
            Depth and blue chip variation .
            It’s hockey season now in my head !
            Gratze and adieu

          3. While I agree with much of this, and still have confidence in Rizzo, it does appear that he needs to supplement his organization to a degree. I don’t know exactly what they do analytically, but almost all organizations are embracing it publicly and it may be that the Nats are behind here. I genuinely don’t know. And many of you have noted the lack of quality position player prospects, and it looks to be true but I’d say two things in defense of them: these things have a tendency to ebb and flow, and we may just be in a down cycle for the organization. And it is hard how to judge them as poor position player developers when over the last several years they have graduated Harper, Rendon, Taylor, and reaching back a bit, Desmond and Espinoza. I certainly agree that the appearance of depth in position players is limited.

            But much more importantly, the Nats present perhaps the most difficult offseason of any team. On the one hand, they have peak Bryce for three more years. You can’t waste those years in a rebuild. Yet they have core lineup pieces that are very difficult to evaluate. Werth, Zimmerman and Escobar are productive yet older players. And the first two are guys that have substantial injury concerns. They need and will likely demand to play full time when healthy, yet if you count on them going forward and they miss substantial time, you will look foolish for falling into that trap again. And to make it even more difficult, they aren’t going to bring back much on the trade market, and are probably net trade negatives (meaning you have to eat salary to trade them). And what is Rendon? 2014 or 2015? If he is the 2014 version, its probably easier to take the chance on Werth or Zim again without a big safety net, but is that a slam dunk? he has had a few months now to round into playing shape but hasn’t bounced back. And this is not to mention that team chemistry, that old bugaboo, looks horrible. The Nats have always felt kind of ‘soft’, but this year just takes that narrative to new heights. I’d say that this is where the lack of high level position player prospects really hurts the Nats. Ideally, Rizzo can buck the trend and make a few pitching prospects for position prospect trades. That would let them go with their vets but have ready replacements if they get hurt. But those kinds of trades are rare.

            These are not easy decisions, and they are high risk, since while I think Rizzo is safe now, if he mostly stands pat on the theory that it was injuries and bullpen that cratered the season and they lay a stinker next year, I doubt that he survives. The more that I think about it, without Bryce on the team, I think Rizzo would blow it all up and rebuild but he can’t do that with him.

            Its going to be interesting.

          1. The only things that I can imagine would ever get played more on Sportscenter than a Harper-Papelbon fight is an accusation of Donald Trump saying something that could be pitched as Donald Sterling. Whatever benefit of the doubt to Papelbon is now quite out the window, as is likely that option for next year. Ugh.

            Now THAT will humble Rizzo. But what I said above is stll the basis for my satisfaction that he is the one to navigate the ship back to the top. He will hopefully learn with the next manager hire.

        1. Showcase both because – like a broken record/
          Voth should be incubated into old Craig Stammen
          Role.
          By the way. Texas has done a great job since
          Hamels came over . CST venues good for playoffs
          TV schedules.

        2. Haha. GG. We have that no hitter gem with
          17 Ks.
          Maybe Knorr could be pitching coach
          If not hired as skipper ?

  4. And unfortunately for the Nats, trades are just one aspect of organizational success. There are other links to be tightened.

    1. Instructional teachers and coaches
      Luke is right. Carhcart replacement
      Might not measure up.
      Jamey Carroll ??! A thought

  5. I’ve always been a Rizzo fan until this year. The trading of Clippard set off a whole string of events that I believe was the main reason for the team’s demise. Janssen, Papalbon, Storen–the way Rizzo handled that was pathetic, especially considering Storen had already been screwed over before. And who really wants Papalbon on their team anyway? Yeah, the only way I’ll come to Washington is if I close. And Rizzo bought into it.
    Ditto the Roark situation. On last year’s superb starting staff, He had the highest WAR, and obviously great stats to boot. So let’s sign Scherzer and demote Roark. Of course, we won’t trade him when his value would likely never be higher. That’s too intelligent a move. Hey, we need him in case someone gets hurt. Wow! We saw how that all worked out. Bad luck, Forensicane. I’d go for very poor management.
    The press and other baseball people accused the Nats of being too arrogant. The Nats camp suggested jealously. Well…
    Oh, and I forgot my biggest issue with Rizzo. He hired Matt Williams, the worst manager I have ever watched in my sixty odd years watching baseball.
    I’ll apologize ahead of time for my rant. And, in case you took it the wrong way, Forensicane, you still remain one of my favorite posters.

    1. Very cogent argument. There’s nothing one can really argue with. I see it a bit differently, but you make perfect sense.

          1. I agree it’s time to play the kids, but the problem with ‘showcasing’ Cole and Jordan is that they have both sat long enough that they aren’t in their regular rhythm, which has to lower the odds of them turning in a good performance considerably. This has particularly been Jordan’s fate every time he has gotten a big league chance. Sits 9 days then asked to start, and gets lit up for the first few innings.

    2. +1 Jeeves. I’ve always grumbled at the concept of Strengthening a Strength. Never made any sense to me – we should be strengthening weaknesses. Roark was absolutely wasted and messed with this year and the Storen situation was just dumb. I’ve only been around about 40 years but MW’s managing has made me scream more than I can ever imagine (maybe I was just spoiled as a Yankee fan growing up with Showalter, Torre, and Girardi in my adult years). I like Rizzo but he’s been knocked down a few pegs this year and he needs to redeem himself in 2016.

      My last few weeks of by Nats Plus membership has been worth nothing… Ugh. I’ll be one of the few dopey fans there today and Monday.

  6. Alas ! Last game was season in a nutshell
    – with all due respect to autumn squirrels-.
    Luke you are the best !
    GG and JJ concur on all points.
    GG see Corridor numbers. Good
    The retool involves contracts off books
    In JoZimm , Dessie, Span, Fister.
    Looks like RoArk may warm rotation spot
    For Lucas G while SS bumps up to number2?
    Ross in the backend mix with Cole and Voth,
    Who may fit Stammen role with his 6-7 IP
    Incubation .
    Turner the burner. AAÀ or big club?
    Ross brother reunion ?? Baseball needs that
    Like the Niekros forschs and mahlers!
    Parra or span with qualifying offer?
    5 June draft picks next year ? Time will tell.
    Santa Claus. Parra and Wieters lol!

  7. PS. den Dekker flashed some good tools
    On second call- up.
    GG. Correct Cuse improved with late season
    Additions including after thought Mastroanna!
    All eyes on Ward in AFL!

  10. Bowdenball, who posts on Nats Insider, said the other day that he believed the Nat’s window was far from closing. I agreed with that comment and his reasons for saying them.
    However, he also said that the Nat’s farm was one of the top five in baseball. Although I agreed that they have some very valuable pieces such as Giolito, Turner, maybe Cole, Fedde, Lopez and Difo, but a farm that had no teams reach the 500 mark doesn’t inspire me to consider them any better than a top twenty overall.
    Although the Nat’s top ten might just possibly be close to top five overall if one includes Robles and a couple of others at the low levels.
    Thoughts?

    1. I have very little enthusiasm for the Nats farm system right now. It’s surplus in starting pitchers is impressive, but that altogether immaterial because there is so little room at the ML level for them to break through. Unless we are looking at a package of a few of them that nets Kimbrel this winter or another yet to be named commodity/need, it serves to remind us of where the gaps are yawning. The only position players, in my estimation, who have star written all over them are Turner and Robles. That’s not a top-5 system. Others may not share my lack of enthusiasm for Severino, but I do not see power or position players ready to step up for an injury to Harper or Taylor or Rendon or Ramos once Desmond leaves town.

      I am hoping this year enables a real restocking of position players (and lefty starters) with high ceiling who enter the system this year at AA (as A+ successes).

      1. Minds will ask down the line.
        Was Fedde $$ worth not adding Suarez ( Giants gain )
        And the Reno Wolfpack 1b??

  11. Expos under the guidance of Joe Sparks won
    Several AmericanAssociation flags but that was
    Mainly AAÀ guys who we now scattered around
    Pro ball as scouts, coaches and etc.
    Thought of the day. Drew Ward. 6 HRs 47 rbis
    In 2015 plus AFL and sharp March camp equals
    Bump up to Harrisburg even with a first baseman ‘s
    Mitt since Wooten and DeBruin should bump up
    To AA. Right?

  12. Org awards up: Marmolejos-Diaz and Voth, with Austen Williams receiving the Bob Boone Award, which I guess is Mr. Congeniality. Hard to argue with any of those, at least if you go with full-season guys. But the lightning bolts through the system certainly were Turner and Ross, with the rapid emergence of Robles not far behind.

    1. Maybe Ward plays 3 b another year since
      OMD could move faster than some and Matt
      Page has embraced first base as a new skill.

  13. Jeff – I just refuse to get excited about Ward until the balls start going over the fence. As for Wooten and DeBruin (age), they are both old enough to have dominated and shown power at their lower level.

    So I will remain unimpressed overall until we get word, come November, of the enormous strides that certain talents made in the instructional league, perhaps 2015 draftees. I am bullish on the middle infield depth, which is the biggest leap forward the organization has made, in my estimation.

    The AFL is not turning me on, either. I’m most excited to root for Kieboom. And hoping Turner does not injure himself playing this year. That would be a face palm. He has nothing to prove in the AFL, having succeeded as he has in AAA. Perhaps just to get more defensive reps at SS and 2B, or even CF.

    1. I feel the same way about Ward. He has only 18 HRs in 279 MiLB games. Many also continue to insist that he will have to play 1B defensively, which will limit his versatility and also increase the need for power production. He is young, and he’s playing above his age level, but he’s got to generate the pop. Will he repeat Potomac, or get the social promotion the Harrisburg? His AFL performance may dictate that decision.

      The total lack of power is the most disconcerting problem with the whole Nats MiLB system.

  15. Kkkkkkk
    And we have Dalton DiNatale !! Lol
    Don’t worry be happy. Winter hot stove
    Moves are fun. Plus we await the bullpen
    Chorus line. And a 5,6,7,8!

    1. Thanks for sharing the link. That’s a very good write-up. Robles should really start popping up on a lot of the prospect lists this offseason. To me, the biggest question about him will be whether he develops power. This story leans heavily on the “five-tool” evaluation, but I’ve seen others that put his MLB power level only at the 10 HR range. In other words, he would turn out to have the potential more like Span than Harper. We’ll see. I was a little surprised that they didn’t push Robles on to Hagerstown for a few weeks. He should start 2016 there, though, giving him a shot at being at Potomac at 19.

  17. Rizzo needs the Dominican program to improve more than it has … in order to keep the system good enough to attract trade partners. That’s may be aided with the QO’s offered to Desmond and Zimmermann that’ll be two picks he wouldn’t otherwise have.

  18. Singer and Bob Johnson gone. GG getting his words
    Cemented regarding change in scouting dept.
    advance scouting with a video coordinator .
    Ripken should not be the next mgr .

  19. GG taking the weekend off.
    One good turn this summer was discovery in
    Clint and den Dekker
    Now for 100 pct health for Zimm 11

  20. Silence here after the staff let go???
    Lol.
    GG is gathering a short essay for tomorrow.
    Lol.

  21. Luke I will save you posting a poll!

    Who likes for skipper ?
    A ) Knorr
    B) Davey Martinez
    C) Ron Worus
    D) Pat Listach
    E) GG. lol
    F) bud black

    1. I wonder how Spin Williams and Paul Menhart will play a role
      In next Nats five years???
      GG. Your audience awaits your next pontification
      Sermon on the Nats mount !! Lol! The smoke emits
      From that chimney !

      1. Jeff (!) hahah – you need to refresh your browser up above. There is a new thread chock full with lots of smoke. I’ve been holding back a few until you start to volley with the rest of us. Get out of the hot tub!

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